“Why am I not getting any chocolate?”
First of all I’m neither against reservation, not against women, nor am I against any particular caste. For the past few weeks, I’ve been trying to understand this whole concept of reservation against the backdrop of the widely reported events in the country and my experiences. Obviously, I haven’t done a lot of analysis on the subject, so the post might be very amateurish.
The OBC reservation issue
My Social Studies teacher in school presented the best reason I’ve heard thus far for reservation based on community/caste. A handicapped child should not compete with a normal child in similar terms. A perfect reasoning that I hold on to even today. There have been some people who have not been given the opportunity to educate themselves because of their caste for generations. Hence, it is completely possible that their offspring in the current generation will find it that much more difficult to perform due to several factors – hereditary, lack of parental help at home etc., other than of course the financial reasons.
Sometime early this year, when AIIMS was involved in violent agitation against reservation, the Prime Minister assured them that their demands will be looked into and the Supreme Court, citing PM’s assurance stated that since the PM has agreed to come up with a committee to review the proposed policy, they must return to work. The Hindu, in its editorial argued that the striking doctors were no longer justified in continuing their strike in the light of these assurances.
After the issue cooled down, the government did appoint a committee under Mr. Veerappa Moily. However, instead of reviewing the reservation policy, the committee came up with plans to implement the reservation policy. Till date, as a common man, I haven’t seen any empirical evidence from the government for the need for reservation for the OBC’s (like they being completely under-represented), any evidence on the success of the reservation policies currently in place (like the positive changes in the number of students of particular castes graduating) or any logic that justifies the number 27% (the need could even be more than 27%). The useless HRD minister Arjun Singh’s appeared completely clueless in this interview when Karan Thapar provided him with facts and figures. After initially trying to be a lone crusader for OBC reservation and drawing flak from all and sundry, he tried to completely shift the blame to the Parliament in the interview.
Now why is an empirical, numerical data important to arrive at a proper reservation policy? I’ll answer this question with an example. For a few days, I had an opportunity to commute by the local trains in Chennai. I noticed that both during the busy office hours in the morning and in the evening, there were many coaches that were marked as “Ladies Compartments”. I believe that this is a perfect solution to enable ladies to travel comfortably in a train. But, what is the right number of compartments to be reserved? In fact, I noticed that during the peak hours, the normal coaches (sometimes even the first class ones) were overflowing with people literally having enough space to just plant one foot. At the same time, each ladies compartment had 4-5 women (full capacity should be greater than 72)! Now with so much space to themselves, the ladies exhibited a peculiar behavior. They no longer sat in any of the seats (when they had the luxury to spread their arms and legs), but stood near the entrances of the compartments. Try to calculate the wastage of resources (here, seats) assuming around 25 ladies occupied the 4 ladies compartments, when they could have occupied just one instead and left the rest as general compartments.
This is the kind of resource wastage we are looking at if reservations are done without proper analysis and figures (In the above case, the solution could range from having ladies bays/coupes instead of compartments or changing the number of reserved compartments depending on the timing). Though, the government plans to increase the number of seats in institutions of higher learning, it is common knowledge that the capacity can never be more than the demand. With limited capacity when compared to the demand, reservation should be an optimization formula that takes care of the interests of the downtrodden while minimizing resource wastage/quality reduction/rejection of the deserving. While everybody understands that implementation of a reservation policy accurately is very difficult, the reservation policy itself cannot be inaccurate/deliberately approximate.
Reservation for women
I have nothing more to add to the above topic, so let me take up the topic of reservation for women. I still am unable to figure out a reason for reservation for women. It is true that women weren’t presented with the same opportunities as men and in some cases were oppressed. But a reservation policy cannot be atonement for the past misdeeds of the society. Shouldn’t just changing the outlook of the society, creating more awareness, having social incentives/disincentives tackle this problem? The same logic as above cannot be applied to women as women do not constitute a single community. I don’t see them having any specific disadvantage/handicap when competing with men (except in physically strenuous activities). If they have handicaps similar to those listed above viz. lack of parental support in academics etc. that should be taken care by the caste-based reservation itself.
I have been witness to several “informal”, off-the-book (and what I consider unfair) reservation policies followed by the several institutions. One of my alma-maters admitted several undeserving women students just to improve its global image despite the fact that it was obvious to everyone that they didn’t make the cut. This is not limited to educational institutions alone. One of my current colleagues, who did his MBA from one of the top-most (government-aided will be an additional clue) B-schools pointed out that several investment bankers offered jobs to girl students just based on their gender. In my institute, a famous IT company came up with a single criterion for short-lists for the interview – girls. In fact many girls themselves questioned and deplored this act of the company during their interviews.
I think all the cases pointed out above were unfair simply because they definitely reduced the quality and denied the opportunity to at least one deserving candidate.
But by far the most poignant example is the following. When I was in Hyderabad, I had an opportunity to visit a corporation school to profile the girl students for a scholarship that an NGO for women was planning to give them. We needed to collect a lot of information (personal, family etc.) from each of the girl child in that school. Only when we turned up at the school, did we realize that it was co-education school. The NGO also provided us with a box of chocolate bars asking us to give a bar to a girl child after getting information from her. While we embarked on this, the boys in the school obviously were piqued as to why the girls alone were being interviewed. When they learnt that chocolate bars also were distributed (we didn’t distribute it in front of them, they obviously learnt about it from their friends), one of the guys (probably 9-10 years old) approached me with a question to which I had no answer: “Why am I not getting any chocolate?”. Every male child in school today is witness to at least one such situation where his girl class mate is getting a concession/priority over him. His perception of the other gender is being set based on such experiences.
Summary
Stopping discrimination against one community shouldn’t mean discriminating against the other community.
I repeat, reservation can never be a way to atone for the past misdeeds of a society.
Reservation cannot be a subjective decision of a few individuals simply because of the stakes involved.
Thanks to the way the policies are being implemented today and the politics that is involved, reservation will ensure cyclic discrimination of communities and will become a perpetual tool for the politicians.
- General | Time: 11:55:38 PM (UTC+8)

Well, he gets to pee where he wants
Comment by Revathi G — September 7, 2006 @ 9:04:22 AM
i dont understand why you see a need for reservation based on caste, but not on the basis of gender (while actually, the former is more politically charged subject than the latter)
Comment by swami — September 15, 2006 @ 11:04:36 AM
Also - I can understand why your institute would admit girls to enhance its global image. After all it is a private institute and if its cash-flow depends on this decision, it will make it to suit such business needs.
However, if we go by the same logic, I am wondering why would corporates recruit - in your view, “undeserving” girls - when they should actually be only concerned about recruiting the best available talent pool. Do they have any vested interests in recruiting girls? Will that improve their bottomline in anyway (like it does for your institute)?
By the way - if it does help their business in some way - I think they probably should do that (as opposed to they would).
Comment by swami — September 17, 2006 @ 9:25:05 PM
@Swami 1st comment - that’s wot i tried to explain. reservation based on caste can be justified by the logic i use to convince myself. that children trying to study face all odds - no education for generations, no help from parents (assuming they want their kid to study) etc. but girls just face the problem of mindset right? they are not more disadvantaged compared to a boy with similar conditions otherwise.
and for ur second comment i still dont understand the tangible benefit that corporates get when they recruit undeserving girls. i can guess the following:
1) better standing in the minds of share-holders.
2) as a corporate social responsibility - which can either be used as a marketing ploy or which can compensate some negative publicity for the company in other areas.
and basically any other advantage that a “socially-conscious” image can achieve.
if u see most of these things, they do not affect the current cash flows, but they are sort of an investment - that expects future returns.
i feel it is wrong bcoz the whole thing is skewed. if a company tries to prove it’s socially conscious by for eg. preventing pollution by some means, it really has some tangible benefit for the society. but creating a perception that women need reservations and then having reservations is akin to patting yourself on your back after opening a lot more statues on the beach road (i.e. the benefit is perceived, just like people have been fooled that having a statue is the ultimate respect u can give a person, society is being fooled w/o being shown any evidence that reservation for women is the best way to bring them up).
Comment by rkarthik — September 17, 2006 @ 10:00:31 PM
Hey Karthik,
Why are ppl fussing over this. On the brighter side - have we not come over the top of it without using any reservation issues? For e.g. P of my class got a centum on math but not any free engg. seat in TN. However, she got into MCA in Anna University. B’coz her parents knew to let her continue to study. Imagine the same thing happening to an SC/ST girl from a remote corner - her parents would/could not have let her study to complete her undergrad.
There is a reaon why some sections of the society don’t have a reservation. They can flourish without it since in the past they had a first mover advantage. Indian education system is just like any new enterprise. For e.g. Telecom services was only provided by Central Govt.
Also, if it is so true, how come so many ppl who did BE & MCA thru reservation have come abroad, proved their value, and the countries have approved citizenship/GC based on intelligence for them???
Love
Revathi
Comment by Revathi G — September 18, 2006 @ 8:16:27 PM
As a matter of fact, I believe, they should have reservation in politics also: parties led by new leaders with new symbols and names can win even if they get less votes than the legacy parties. What you say dude?
Comment by Revathi G — September 18, 2006 @ 8:43:05 PM
Karthik,
Bad actions show effects immediately.
Good ones take a longer time and more persistence.
I believe 50 years of reservation is beginning to show slight improvements of ppl in rural India to reverse more than 1000s of years of negative impact.
We should fix the bugs, not the project.
Regards,
R
Comment by Revathi G — September 19, 2006 @ 3:23:13 AM
Do u really believe a stockholder cares about the workforce vs. his earnings?? If he cares about CSR, he will do it directly from his pocket which is more efficient & effective than an org. to do it!!!
Comment by Revathi G — September 19, 2006 @ 3:25:00 AM
Plus I heard from my friend at XYZ, they were hesitant to give a job to a female who might move after marriage or quit on so many family responsibilities! NOW, do you see Karthik?
Comment by Revathi G — September 20, 2006 @ 1:03:28 AM
Revathi, first of all thanks so much for commenting so many times in my blog. I’ll try to answer them.
Comment 1: I think what you’re saying is, “People who studied after getting seats through reservations have proved their mettle”. I didn’t understand the P example though. I never said no. My question is what is the right number. Many researches have found that a lot of reserved seats are not being utilized at all and people who join the reserved seats in institutions like IIT drop out. I’m neither against reservation, nor against a particular % of reservation. All I’m asking is this. How do you arrive at an optimal figure?
Comment 2: It may work or it may not. This is probably the best policy to uplift the lowest sections of the society. But again the same question. Just how did you come up with 27% or 69%. There cannot be a qualitative explanation for this.
Comment 3: It has been proved through a lot of studies that CSR activities have positive impact from the share holders, in fact from all the stake holders. If you were in India, you would’ve seen the Project Shiksha programme of P&G. It indirectly benefits the share holders for eg. due to increased employee productivity, prevention of unnecessary litigations etc. I think reservation for women will have a similar effect of a CSR initiative.
Comment 4: I don’t know what you want me to see. That women are being discriminated against? That is the problem of mindset I talked about right? It needs a change of mindset from the employers/academic authorities to treat women on par with men. I’m sceptic that a blatant reservation will achieve that because it has its repercusions like in the train example that I pointed out.
Comment by rkarthik — September 20, 2006 @ 9:32:51 PM