Comments on: Carnatic concerts for the uninitiated http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/ Let me understand myself Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:21:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Subbu http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-409 Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:08:53 +0100 http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-409 good one good one

]]> by: dr.sunder http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-331 Thu, 15 May 2008 22:18:21 +0100 http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-331 back after a break during which we did appreciation programs all over the place, like Mayavaram, Trichy, Neyveli and Bangalore for children, Music forum has a program by Neyveli Santhanam on 24th May. at 9am. Would you be interested ? DR.SUNDER back after a break during which we did appreciation programs all over the place, like Mayavaram, Trichy, Neyveli and Bangalore for children, Music forum has a program by Neyveli Santhanam on 24th May. at 9am. Would you be interested ?
DR.SUNDER

]]> by: rkarthik http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-185 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:50:34 +0100 http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-185 i was eager to capture the event and my reactions immediately after attending the session. i cud've probably split it into 2 posts. will take note of it when i write in the future i was eager to capture the event and my reactions immediately after attending the session. i cud’ve probably split it into 2 posts. will take note of it when i write in the future

]]> by: Lakshmi http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-184 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:17:07 +0100 http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-184 Exactly..I agree with subbaraman.People like me who suffer from ADD can never imagine reading your post completely...i had to force myself to read this one. Exactly..I agree with subbaraman.People like me who suffer from ADD can never imagine reading your post completely…i had to force myself to read this one.

]]> by: Subbaraman http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-183 Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:12:11 +0100 http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-183 Nice one..Aana en ivalavu lengthy a ezhudhare :) ? Nice one..Aana en ivalavu lengthy a ezhudhare :) ?

]]> by: swami http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-182 Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:28:28 +0100 http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-182 your explanation for the language issue makes much more sense. your explanation for the language issue makes much more sense.

]]> by: rkarthik http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-181 Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:58:41 +0100 http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-181 Yeah, I too feel the answer to 2 was not convincing. The artistes on stage continuously chat with each other not essentially on the concert that is on. I think you're entirely correct on the exclusivity part. The fans always seem to want to exhibit their knowledge of the art more than actually enjoy it during a concert. The "besh"'s and gestures they make seem more to indicate their knowledge rather than for their enjoyment itself, because most of them do not do the same things when they listen to music privately. I feel a convincing answer to the language question is as follows: Irrespective of whether it is a Tamil song or otherwise, you never understand the verses of the krithi the first time you hear it. Even if you take film songs, the first thing that hits a fan is the music and not the lyrics. You (atleast I) get interested in the lyrics only in the subsequent hearings. That being the case, if you really want to learn the lyrics/know the meaning, the effort for understanding a telugu/sanskrit song will be only slightly more than for a tamil song. About critics, I know they can really break a musicians career. But I'm not sure how constructive they can be. Yeah, I too feel the answer to 2 was not convincing. The artistes on stage continuously chat with each other not essentially on the concert that is on. I think you’re entirely correct on the exclusivity part. The fans always seem to want to exhibit their knowledge of the art more than actually enjoy it during a concert. The “besh”’s and gestures they make seem more to indicate their knowledge rather than for their enjoyment itself, because most of them do not do the same things when they listen to music privately.
I feel a convincing answer to the language question is as follows: Irrespective of whether it is a Tamil song or otherwise, you never understand the verses of the krithi the first time you hear it. Even if you take film songs, the first thing that hits a fan is the music and not the lyrics. You (atleast I) get interested in the lyrics only in the subsequent hearings. That being the case, if you really want to learn the lyrics/know the meaning, the effort for understanding a telugu/sanskrit song will be only slightly more than for a tamil song.
About critics, I know they can really break a musicians career. But I’m not sure how constructive they can be.

]]> by: swami http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-179 Sat, 21 Oct 2006 03:10:41 +0100 http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-179 Answer to (2) -- shows exactly why Carnatic music is elitist and localized. Carnatic musicians (even fans, sometimes) are in love with exclusivity that they can never see their beloved art get popular. Answer to (4): Bad analogies for a reasonably acceptable point Last line of answer to (5): I think he is talking about musicians who have already made their mark - not budding singers who are trying to enter the Madras Highbrow Carnatic Music bastion. Answer to (2) — shows exactly why Carnatic music is elitist and localized. Carnatic musicians (even fans, sometimes) are in love with exclusivity that they can never see their beloved art get popular.

Answer to (4): Bad analogies for a reasonably acceptable point

Last line of answer to (5): I think he is talking about musicians who have already made their mark - not budding singers who are trying to enter the Madras Highbrow Carnatic Music bastion.

]]> by: rkarthik http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-178 Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:47:22 +0100 http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-178 thank you sathish thank you sathish

]]> by: sathish http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-177 Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:04:55 +0100 http://rkarthik.blogsome.com/2006/10/15/carnatic-concerts-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-177 karthik, very nice post. karthik, very nice post.

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